We believe that your issue has been closed by the upload of
Version 0.28.1 of grml-live from Michael Prokop <mika@grml.org>.
The explanation is attached below

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:25:03 +0100
Source: grml-live
Binary: grml-live grml-live-db
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.28.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Michael Prokop <mika@grml.org>
Changed-By: Michael Prokop <mika@grml.org>
Description:
 grml-live  - build system for creating a Grml (based) Linux live system
 grml-live-db - log package build information of grml-live to database
Changes:
 grml-live (0.28.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ brian m. carlson ]
   * [fd166a5] Add SHA-256 and SHA-512 hashes
 .
   [ Darshaka Pathirana ]
   * [895467c] Change systemd default target to multi-user.target
   * [50bdb40] Use ssh-keygen -A to generate host keys
   * [48dd3c8] Enable General Purpose Mouse interface (gpm) with systemd
 .
   [ Michael Prokop ]
   * Documentation related changes:
     - [07dd8b1] document LIVE_CONF usage. Thanks to Eric Keller for bug report
     - [01fa9e0] clarify usage of GRMLBASE regarding kernel package selection
     - [6c2fffe] update ISO sizes + disk space requirements
   * Software related changes:
     - [8d1192c] add libpam-systemd to GRMLBASE, except for FILE_RC installs
     - [7d42047] add man-db to GRML_FULL
     - [837cb4a] add vim-gtk to GRML_FULL [Closes: issue1325]
   * Cleanups:
     - [712b0db] Drop deprecated ia32-libs package from Recommends
     - [d82e1cc] Drop grml-live-compat from Suggests, update code + comments
       accordingly
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Am 2014-11-23 um 06:07 schrieb Dave:
> Dave <lordkappa@gmail.com> added the comment:
>
>> On a rescue console you sometimes need to run a script from your own computer
>> or one just downloaded from the web that needs slight modifications
> If you're able to download a script, what's to stop you from getting vim-gtk
> from the repo after boot?

I would not trust a binary download as I can not read it line by line.
Even un-[t]ar ing an archive can make you subject to an infection.
Besides this I am most often using scripts from the home directory
of my hard disk, so that the argument does not apply.

>
>>> The best option would be vim-gtk with 7MB of additional disk space required.
> vim already comes with GRML; For me, the 7MB isn't necessary when regular vim
> works just fine. Other than better mouse and tab support, Does it offer some
> compelling additional functionality over regular vim? vimdiff is already
> included for diff support; I'm not sure I'd need/use vim-gtk over regular vim
> even if it were included.
Better mouse and tab support are just one part of the play. Scrolling text
and making full use of the clipboard are two other core features you
can hardly do without. They are especially useful for editing medium and
large size script collections. However some other features like font 
scaling
on the fly are also quite handy ...

>
>>> What do other folks/devs think about adding vim-gtk to grml-full? yes/maybe/no?
> Maybe, but If you want a proper graphical text editor, I'd rather go all the way
> and use geany; I don't feel vim-gtk is compelling enough.
Geany would of course have been an option but GRML developers want to keep
the iso really tiny. So gvim seems to be a good compromise to me. That is to
confess: gvim currently is my favourite editor which I am using for 
almost any
task. Unimaginable to suffice just with console-vim for all of it ...


>
> _____________________________________
> GRML issue tracker <bts@bts.grml.org>
> <http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue1325>
> _____________________________________
>

>On a rescue console you sometimes need to run a script from your own computer
>or one just downloaded from the web that needs slight modifications

If you're able to download a script, what's to stop you from getting vim-gtk
from the repo after boot?

> > The best option would be vim-gtk with 7MB of additional disk space required.

vim already comes with GRML; For me, the 7MB isn't necessary when regular vim
works just fine. Other than better mouse and tab support, Does it offer some
compelling additional functionality over regular vim? vimdiff is already
included for diff support; I'm not sure I'd need/use vim-gtk over regular vim
even if it were included.

> > What do other folks/devs think about adding vim-gtk to grml-full? yes/maybe/no?

Maybe, but If you want a proper graphical text editor, I'd rather go all the way
and use geany; I don't feel vim-gtk is compelling enough.

* Elmar Stellnberger wrote in grml's BTS on 20141118 / 16:31:

> > I just checked on that. geany (10,8MB) is IMHO too big that I would consider
> > adding it to our ISO. Also meld (13,1MB) and kdiff3 (393MB) are not small enough
> > that I would consider them for inclusion, especially given that vim is capable
> > of providing a diff feature already.

> What about fldiff (1,3MB)? It is a fully featured graphical diff with 
> character
> recognition. mgdiff with 800kB might have been an option as well but it
> has no individual character highlighting which means that we could also
> use vimdiff instead.

Neither fldiff nor mgdiff look useful to me, sorry.

> > The best option would be vim-gtk with 7MB of additional disk space required.
> > What do other folks/devs think about adding vim-gtk to grml-full? yes/maybe/no?

> I would kindly welcome the inclusion of gvim!
> It is far easier to work with gvim than with a console version of vim.
> vim-nox might have been an alternative but it is only 200k smaller.

Ok, we need further feedback from other developers and users though,
adding stuff to the ISO is too easy, while reducing ISO size is
quite hard, so I prefer to make well considered decisions about that.

regards,
-mika-

Hi Michael,
>
> I just checked on that. geany (10,8MB) is IMHO too big that I would consider
> adding it to our ISO. Also meld (13,1MB) and kdiff3 (393MB) are not small enough
> that I would consider them for inclusion, especially given that vim is capable
> of providing a diff feature already.
What about fldiff (1,3MB)? It is a fully featured graphical diff with 
character
recognition. mgdiff with 800kB might have been an option as well but it
has no individual character highlighting which means that we could also
use vimdiff instead.
>
> The best option would be vim-gtk with 7MB of additional disk space required.
> What do other folks/devs think about adding vim-gtk to grml-full? yes/maybe/no?

I would kindly welcome the inclusion of gvim!
It is far easier to work with gvim than with a console version of vim.
vim-nox might have been an alternative but it is only 200k smaller.


Best Wishes,
Elmar

Hi,

I just checked on that. geany (10,8MB) is IMHO too big that I would consider
adding it to our ISO. Also meld (13,1MB) and kdiff3 (393MB) are not small enough
that I would consider them for inclusion, especially given that vim is capable
of providing a diff feature already.

The best option would be vim-gtk with 7MB of additional disk space required.
What do other folks/devs think about adding vim-gtk to grml-full? yes/maybe/no?

thx && regards,
-mika-

On a rescue console you sometimes need to run a script from your own computer or
one just downloaded from the web that needs slight modifications. Some tools for
graphics mode would be highly appreciated to do so:
* a graphical editor with syntax highlighting like gvim, geany or so
* a graphical diff utility like meld, kdiff3.
e.g. mouse support is not as good for console tools and the tiny or pixely font
of the xterm can make it hard to use console only tools.